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Citizen A – 20 October 2012 – Online now!


Citizen A


– 20 October 2012 –


– Chris Trotter & Selwyn Manning –



Issue 1: Is a WINZ kiosk less leaky than a GCSB staff meeting? What to make of the security lapse at the Ministry of Social Development?

Issue 2: Where does the Kim Dotcom case end?

and Issue 3: Government tells Maoridom to get lost over the sale of Mighty River Power – what now for the Maori Party and asset sales?


Acknowledgement (republished with kind permission)




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Is John Key ‘losing the plot’?!

18 September 2012 3 comments

Lifted from the media today,


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When the Leader of the pro-capitalist National Party starts talking about “nationalising elements such as water and wind”  – whilst at the same time instigating a programme to partially privatise Genesis Energy, Mighty River Power, and Meridian – the question has to be asked; has John Key flipped his lid?!?!

Regardless of whatever atmosphere they are breathing on the Ninth Floor, there must be some severe oxygen depletion at work to have affected Key’s mental processes so badly.

New Zealanders from both ends of the spectrum, Left and Right, as well as the general populace, must be wondering what is going on in the land of Planet National.

Right wing National supporters must’ve wondered if they had heard their Dear Leader correctly when he uttered the taboo “N” word (“nationalisation – not “n—-r”).

The Left would have been rolling their eyes and shaking their heads in dismay, and wondering, “How much more of this clown will the public take? Does he have to decapitate and eat a kitten before his popularity takes a nose-dive and drops lower than John Banks’ credibility?”

Nationalisation of water and air…

Whilst selling of our state assets at the same time…

The breath-taking audacity of the man.

In reality, what he is saying is that  the government is toying with the idea  of making a grab for certain natural resources – before selling them to private investors.

His comment is as ludicrous as his statement on TVNZ’s Q+A on 16 September when he dumbly blurted out,

… So if you accept that viewpoint, then I think you have to accept that elements like water and wind and the sun and air and fire and all these things, and the sea, along with natural resources like oil and gas, are there for the national interest of everyone. They’re there for the benefit of all New Zealanders, not one particular group over another. “

See: TVNZ Q+A Interview with Prime Minister John Key

Yeah, right, Dear Leader. I’m sure that came as a bit of a surprise to the private oil and gas companies currently exploiting our gas and oil fields.

John Key – always a laugh a minute with his incredibly outrageous remarks. Unfortunately, his clownish behaviour is ultimately at our expense.


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A lesson in Energy Economics

17 September 2012 Leave a comment




This is the Treaty of Waitangi, signed by most tribes in New Zealand, and by the Representative of Her Majesty, Lieutenant-Governor, William Hobson,



The full English text can be read here: Treaty of Waitangi.

The relevant part to the treaty, guaranteeing rights to land, forests, water, mountain, etc, is this bit, Article 2,

Article the second [Article 2]

Her Majesty the Queen of England confirms and guarantees to the Chiefs and Tribes of New Zealand and to the respective families and individuals thereof the full exclusive and undisturbed possession of their Lands and Estates Forests Fisheries and other properties which they may collectively or individually possess so long as it is their wish and desire to retain the same in their possession; but the Chiefs of the United Tribes and the individual Chiefs yield to Her Majesty the exclusive right of Preemption over such lands as the proprietors thereof may be disposed to alienate at such prices as may be agreed upon between the respective Proprietors and persons appointed by Her Majesty to treat with them in that behalf.

Seems fairly clear; what’s theirs is theirs and no nicking each others’ stuff.

Now, unfortunately, I have fellow New Zealanders who hold to the belief that the Treaty of Waitangi is “no longer relevant” or is “outdated”.

Interesting idea that; “no longer relevant”.

Firstly, the Treaty has no “expiry date” or “statute of limitations”. Nothing in the  small print  states that the Treaty is valid for only X number of years.

Secondly, imagine trying to tell our American cuzzies that their Declaration of Independence – signed in 1776AD, and therefore some 64 years older than our own Treaty – is “no longer relevant” or  “outdated”? They’d have half their US Marines camped outside your front door – and not in a happy way, either.

And of course, there is the Magna Carta, signed in 1215AD, and which is the basis of much of our modern law.  If the Magna Carta is “no longer relevant” or  “outdated” then we are in serious trouble, as the state would have arbitrary powers of detention and imprisonment without right of trial, and we would lose other legal protections from State abuse.

And then there are the Ten Commandments, several thousand years old, which state the most basic laws of a civilised society; no killing, no stealing, no false accusations, etc.

Few people would try to assert that these basic laws are “no longer relevant” or  “outdated”?

Time does not extinguish rights.

Those who object to the principles of the Treaty do so out of fear and misconceptions (and sometimes out of downright racist hostility) than any notions of fairness.

The Treaty is the basis upon which our ancestors agreed to live together and to respect each other. We should respect that agreement and use it in the spirit in which it was signed.

Otherwise we disrespect our forebears (on all sides) and do ourselves a dishonour in the  process.

Moving forward and onward…




In replying to Maori claims of water rights, Dear Leader John Key has stated earnestly that “no one owns the water”.

Until now,  Maori have made no claims over water in terms of this country’s energy production. With Meridian, Mighty River Power, and Genesis Energy under collective  state ownership, it could equally be said that “no one owned the power companies – they belonged to us all.

If, until now, we all benefitted from collective ownership of power companies, then, equally the source of that power was in collective ownership. Now National is attempting to privatise 49% of  Meridian, Mighty River Power, and Genesis Energy – effectively changing the rules.

The concept of private ownership is now contemplated for up-till-now collectively-owned assets. So what about the source of that power which will now benefit a small group who will own 49%?

Can the source of hydro power be owned, especially when it produces profits?

Let’s test that idea, shall we?

Simple question: who owns the following resources?



Oil. Natural  gas. Coal. Uranium. None of this stuff  is free. Someone owns the ground or the process used to extract it.  There is a concept of private ownership  over these energy sources that can be quantified, measured, controlled,  priced, and sold.

Until Pakeha arrived on these fair shores as the second wave of  “boat people” – refugees from a class-stratified society – Maori had no concept of private ownership. Property was not owned by individuals. Iwi and hapu held collective kawanatanga over their lands, waters, forests, hills, seashores, etc.

Once Pakeha arrived, the notion of private ownership and Land Titles were introduced to Maori.

Some Pakeha might object – but water is sacred!

So is land. God knows enough of our young men have gone off to war to defend our nation; our people; our lands, from foreign domination, in two World Wars.

Some Pakeha would object – but water is ephemeral!

So are radio/television  frequencies. But that hasn’t stopped the government to leasing/selling those to private companies. (Try broadcasting on the same wavelength as TVNZ or TV3, and see what the reaction from those companies and the State would be.)

This is a hydro power station,



Powered by this stuff,



Water  generates the turbines which produces the power that is on-sold to consumers.

So how does water differ from oil, gas, coal, and uranium?

Private ownership?  It suited us Pakeha when it was used to our benefit to “acquire” land from Maori.

Maori learnt that lesson well and the shoe is now on the other foot.

If Pakeha are going to flog of 49% of  assets that, up till now, no one owned and collectively benefitted us all, then by the gods, Maori can – and should – apply precisely the same principle.

Welcome to the world of capitalism – our ‘gift’ to Maori




Pakeha schizophrenia over private ownership was nowhere better summed up than on TVNZ’s Q+A, on 16 September, when Shane Taurima interviewed Dear Leader John Key on this issue,



In a stunning act of conversion to social democratic principles, John Key equated the collective ownership of water with oil and gas,

… So if you accept that viewpoint, then I think you have to accept that elements like water and wind and the sun and air and fire and all these things, and the sea, along with natural resources like oil and gas, are there for the national interest of everyone. They’re there for the benefit of all New Zealanders, not one particular group over another. “

See: TVNZ Q+A Interview with Prime Minister John Key


JohnKey is telling us that, ” natural resources like oil and gas, are there for the national interest of everyone. They’re there for the benefit of all New Zealanders, not one particular group over another “?!?

Since when did National or Labour nationalise the oil and gas industry???

This little piece of news-trivia slipped by me, that’s for sure. (Must’ve been announced on the other TV channel when we wasted two minutes watching ‘The Ridges‘.)

It’s pure bullshit of course. John Key is spinning porkies when he’s suggesting that the oil and gas industry is ” there for the national interest of everyone “. These resources belong to various corporations – not ”  for the benefit of all New Zealanders “.

In fact, the last time New Zealand held any State ownership in any aspect of the oil and gas industry was  with Petrocorp and Maui gas – both  privatised, respectively, in 1988 and 1990.

See: Treasury – Income from State Asset Sales

John Key’s assertion that the oil and gas industry is ” there for the national interest of everyone ” is either delusional (spending too much time with John Banks?) or a clumsy fairytale to try to woo New Zealanders into a cosy, cotton-wool, fantasy world.

This blogger would welcome and support National nationalising all oil and gas production in this country, ”  for the benefit of all New Zealanders “.

The fact is that Dear Leader blew it.

Not only was his paradigm absurdly false – but it actually shored up the legitamacy of Maori claims over water rights.

If private ownership can be conferred over this country’s oil and gas resources, for the private benefit of shareholders, then John Key needs to explain – in far more truthful terms this time – why water is different.

This blogger  believes that so far he has made a complete hash of things.

More importantly, will a Court take a similar view?

My money is on Maori winning this one.




An email sent to Dear Leader,

Date: Monday, 17 September 2012 12:11 AM
From: Frank Macskasy <>
Reply-To: Frank Macskasy <>
Subject: Nationalisation of oil and gas resources
To: John Key <>
Cc: David Shearer <>,
    Russel Norman <>,
    Metiria Turei <>,
    Winston Peters <>

Kia Ora Mr Key,
On 16 September, you stated on TVNZ’s Q+A the following statement,
” … So if you accept that viewpoint, then I think you have to accept that elements like water and wind and the sun and air and fire and all these things, and the sea, along with natural resources like oil and gas, are there for the national interest of everyone. They’re there for the benefit of all New Zealanders, not one particular group over another. “


I missed the occassion when our oil and gas industries were nationalised, so that profits would remain in New Zealand,  “for the benefit of all New Zealanders, not one particular group over another”.

This is an excellent state of affairs and I welcome your government’s conversion to social democracy whereby  our ”  natural resources like oil and gas, are there for the national interest of everyone “.

I take it as a given then, that you have not only abandoned your asset sales programme, but will be re-nationalising Contact Energy.

In which case, it is a truism that “no one owns the oil and gas” in the ground, and subsequently these resources belong to all New Zealanders collectively.

I may have to reconsider my vote, come 2014, as I wish to support the newly discovered  social-democratic principles shown by your Party.

With regards,
-Frank Macskasy





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Guest Author: Open Letter to the Prime Minister, by Hone Harawira

– Hone Harawira,
MP for Te Tai Tokerau
Leader, Mana Party



Kia ora John

I’m down at Turangawaewae for the water hui, and I just wanted to clear up a few things before I go in.

You see John, there’s quite a bit of confusion about how Maori are being pushed to help you with your asset sales problem, but there doesn’t seem to be much of a push from your side to help Maori with any of our problems – like poverty, low wages, massive unemployment, poor housing, benefit cuts … you know the rest.

We know things are hard for your government right now, what with trying to sell off power companies when you don’t own the water that drives them – but really John, that’s something your officials should have sorted out a long time ago.

The consultation hui earlier this year showed clearly that Maori don’t support asset sales, there was that huge march on parliament against it, and there’s that petition on the street right now with 250,000 signatures and growing, opposing asset sales as well.

And you must have known John, that Maori would take action to protect their water rights under the Treaty of Waitangi.

That’s why Maori were so upset when you ridiculed the idea of a claim to the Waitangi Tribunal, then belittled the New Zealand Maori Council for daring to take the claim in the first place, and then said that the Tribunal wasn’t worth listening to anyway.

You see John, the Tribunal is one of the only avenues we have to present our claims in our own way. In fact it’s the only place where what our kaumatua and kuia have to say has any meaning. It’s deeply flawed of course, but it has a special place as the nation’s only specialist judicial body on Treaty issues.

That’s why when the Tribunal said that “government would be in breach of the Treaty if it proceeded with its asset sales programme before Maori water rights had been settled”, we really hoped that you might do the right thing and step back, take a deep breath, and let the judicial process run its course.

So when you decided to simply defer the sale, and engage in behind-closed-door deals with selected iwi leaders, you can imagine how … upset … we got.

Because this is an important issue John, to all of us.

This is about water, and in particular Maori interests in that water.

And water really is a taonga to us John, a treasure. It’s hard to explain in English but water is something to cherish, to care for, to respect and to protect for future generations. Moana Jackson says “every tribe has a river” and the people of Whanganui have a saying “I am the river and the river is me”. Water is part of who we are.

And Maori water rights need to be understood in that context John. Not as a tradeable commodity, but as part and parcel of our very existence. Even Pakeha people get that; I think that might be why so many of them oppose your asset sales too.

The Tribunal has confirmed those rights (with the support I might add, of a number of your own Crown witnesses), and the Council has quite rightly asked the Tribunal to consider the extent of those rights and how best to recognise them in stage two of the hearings.

That’s not to deny hapu and iwi their rightful claims to waterways in their territories, but the issue of Maori water rights calls for a nationwide discussion and commitment to standards and expectations far greater than what can be achieved by small groups meeting behind closed doors.

John, this is one of the biggest decisions Maori will ever make, and 5 weeks just isn’t enough time to do it justice.

So where do we go from here?

Well … if I were the Prime Minister John, I think I’d:

§ Set aside the asset sales programme for a while;

§ Give the Tribunal time to complete stage two of the hearings;

§ Give Maori time to go back and share all that information with our kaumatua and our kuia, our cousins, our kids, and yes even our mokos as well, because the decisions we make today will affect them and their mokos too. And time too for hapu and iwi to consider the wider implications for them as well;

§ Give the rest of the country time to give their views too; because on this issue, every New Zealander should have a say;

§ And then I’d call everyone back to the table in 12 months, and see if we could come up with a solution that works for all.

Anyway, gimme a bell some time and let’s have a cup of tea and a chat.

Yours sincerely,
Hone Harawira



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A temporary victory for common sense?!

2 August 2012 2 comments


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Whoda thunk it – Maori saving New Zealand from the worst excesses of neo-liberalism.

And who would have thought that the Treaty of Waitangi – a 172 year old document – would be used  to preserve our state assets from being flogged of  by a Party that barely achieved 47.3% of the Party vote last year. National scored 1,058,636 votes out of a population of 4.4 million – not exactly a cast-iron mandate, but there you have it.

For some free marketeers, 1,058,636 trumps 4.4 million. No wonder so many finance companies went bust – they can’t count.

Most mind-numbingly depressing is that evidently many New Zealanders who voted for John Key and the National Party did so despite their opposition to asset sales.

Which really, when you think about it, is like going to a supermarket wanting  to buy a can of peaches; picking a can of Watties Beans instead; taking it home; opening it – and then expressing disappointment that the can doesn’t contain peaches.


In all my life, I can’t say I’ve ever done that. Buying peaches and expecting beans…

When this blogger started passing the CIR petition to call for a referendum on the issue, the second and third signatories were two tradesmen. Both burly blokes who had voted National.

They almost grabbed at my pen to sign.

Guilt, I guess.

The Maori Council’s appeal to the Waitangi Tribunal has resulted in the Tribunal making a recommendation to postpone any and all asset sales, until water rights for Maori are resolved. This is no small matter.

Up till now, with water being used by state-owned enterprises, for the benefit of the entire country – Maori were content  to leave that precious  resource under State control/ownership.

It is only when National raised the ugly spectre of SOE privatisation that matters changed. All of a sudden – despite the water flowing through hydro-dams not being directly owned by the power companies – that resource was to be used to general private profit for private investors.

Screw that, thought Tangata Whenua and many fair-minded Tau Iwi.

And rightly so.

There is precedence here,

During the Second World War, the New Zealand Government took land from indigenous Māori owners by acquisition for the purpose of a military airfield. Instead of these being handed back to its former owners (the Tainui Awhiro peoples) when no longer required for defence purposes, part of the land, a 62-acre (250,000 m2) block was turned into a public Raglan golf course in 1969. “


13 February 1988 is a day of thanksgiving and celebration for the return of Māori land. 25 hectares by the Raglan harbour was taken by the Crown for defence purposes during the Second World War. Later it became the Raglan golf course. Now it’s back in the hands of Tainui Awhiro people.

In 1978, seventeen Māori protesters were arrested on the golf course for trespass. Their court appearance set off a chain of events which trailed through the courts amidst bitter argument at local and national level, but finally led to the return of the land to local Māori people. The golf course has been re-sited in the hills overlooking Raglan.

In 1988, more than a thousand people gather to remember those who fought for what they considered a triumph over injustice. “


Whilst the land was used in the defence of the nation, Maori were prepared to tolerate the State “acquiring” (ie, confiscating) it.

But once the war was over,  Maori had a reasonable expectation that it be returned to them. Instead, the pakeha state gave it to the Raglan Golf Club, and Maori had to fight through the Courts to have was was rightfully theirs, returned to them.

I doubt if any redneck pakeha would tolerate his or her house been confiscated by the State, without compensation, and later on-sold to developers.

The same can be said of water. Maori were prepared to share this resource with all of New Zealand.

But once National decided to sell four power companies, this changed the entire management/benefits dynamics. As our American cuzzies put it;  “it’s a whole new ball game, Jethro!”.

There are, unfortunately, a sizeable number of pakeha who say that “no one owns the water”.


Have a look at your local body rates bill. Notice how much you’re paying for water “no one owns”?

And isn’t it funny that until Pakeha rocked up onto the shores of the Land of The Long White Cloud, Maori had no concept of private ownership? An Iwi or hapu had sovereignty over an area of land and waterways – but no one  person owned anything. It was all communal.

Enter boatloads of pakeha and their alien notion of “private property”.

Suddenly, land was owned by individuals.

Maori were expected to get used to this alien concept. In fact, they had little choice, and to their credit they adapted well to the Pakeha system. They also realised the power of the Courts and the legal system – another pakeha construct.

Maori are now using the Courts (a pakeha system) to gain ownership (a pakeha notion) over waterways. The Treaty (a pakeha instrument) is their contract with the Crown (a pakeha hierarchical institution) that guarantees Maori undisturbed possession of their “treasures” (assets).

And all of a sudden, pakeha are claiming collective ownership of water?!

Talk about trying to change the rules half-way through the game!

Once this issue hits the Court system, expect delays as the case drags through the High Court, then Court of Appeal, then Supreme Court. It could be a very, very drawn out process.

In which case, Maori and a 172 year old document may have stymied the theft of our State assets. Just as the Treaty was designed to stop the theft of Maori assets.

Funny, how things turn out for the good.



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Is pressure getting to Key?




It would be fair to say that National’s asset sale programme is highly unpopular with the majority of New Zealanders – and with a sizeable portion of National Party voters. In fact, it would be fair to say that those individuals and organisations in favour of asset sales would be a distinct minority.

John Key doggedly maintains that National has a “mandate” for the partial-privatisation of Solid Energy, Meridian, Genesis, Meridian, and a further sell-down of Air New Zealand.

Whilst it’s true that National’s 1,058,636 party votes trumped Labour’s 614,937 – National’s support is less than one quarter of the population of this country. And when votes for Labour, NZ First, the Greens, Mana, Maori Party, and the Conservative Party are added together – they outnumber the combined votes for National, ACT, and United Future.

The only reason that National-ACT-United Future have a current one-seat majority in Parliament is because the Conservative Party did not break the 5% threshold, nor win an Electorate seat.

See:  2011 general election official results

ACT, but contrast, gained less than half the number of votes that the Conservative Party did – but because of the quirky Electorate Seat Threshold rule (which lets Parties enter Parliament despite not breaking the 5% threshold), still gained one seat.

For the second time in two elections, a small Party has won more votes than ACT – but ACT has slipped back into Parliament because of National-ACT manipulation of the Electorate Seat Threshold. The other Party failed to win seats because it failed to break the 5% threshold or win an Electorate.

The Electoral Commission is currently reviewing MMP and it is likely that they will recommend to Parliament that the Electorate Seat Threshold be eliminated, as it serves no logical, discernible purpose and undermines the proportionality of  our electoral system.

National’s “mandate” is therefore as shonkey as some of John Key’s promises.


The Maori Party finds itself in the same invidious position that NZ First was in 1998, and the Alliance in 2001. Both Parties were ‘tested’ by unforeseen circumstances, and the subsequent  political stresses and public pressures tore both Parties apart.

The Alliance was effectively destroyed, and NZ First split in two, and never recovered it’s electoral hey-day support of  13.35%.

The Maori Party finds itself in a similar Rock-vs-Hard Place situation, as it contemplates public pressure over it’s support for National – even as it’s leader, John Key, has trashed the Waitangi Tribunal by stating categorically that  it is not bound by Tribunal decisions and may gnore it’s recommendationa.

It has always been known (except by low-information voters) that Waitangi Tribunal decisions are not binding on any government. But governments of both Left and Right have, up till now, had the common sense and common courtesy to reserve judgement until being handed Tribunal recommendations.

To pre-empt the Waitangi Tribunal by suggesting – as John Key did – that National may ignore any recommendation, is high-handed arrogance. And it is a slap in the face to Maori, who place a measure of  faith in the British judicial system of fairness in justice.

After all, our justice system was introduced to this land, as was the concept of private ownership, and Maori have had to adapt to both concepts. This, they have done – and with far more success than generally Pakeha have adapted to Maori tikanga.

So for John Key to dismiss, out-of-hand, any decision from the Tribunal insults not just Maori, but our faith in systems of justice that apply to everyone in this country.

If Tariana Turia and Pita Sharples want to remain aligned with a political party, that is so derisory to the Waitangi Tribunal and normal concepts of fair play,  then they risk being tarred by association.

This blogger concurs with those who call for the Maori Party to disassociate itself from National. For their own mana,  and ultimate political survival, the Maori Party must ‘walk’. There is no possible long-term benefit to be gained  by continuing to associate with, and support, John Key’s administration.

But there is a lot of damage to be gained by maintaining their association with National.

Small parties are highly vulnerable to voter backlash. The history of The Alliance Party, United Future, ACT,  and NZ First should serve as a stark warning to Ms Turia and Mr Sharples.

It is time to walk, Ms Turia, Mr Sharples. For your own dignity, if nothing else.


For the first time since the 2011 election, John Key has admitted that the first partial-privatisation – that of  Mighty River Power – may be delayed.

A combination of several protest marches; thousands of letters and emails sent to MPs and Ministers; letters-to-the-editors of newspapers; and ongoing public concerns have given John Key and his National cronies one, giant, non-stop, collective headache.

On a practical level, Dear Leader seemed to be prepared to “weather the storm of public anger”, and hunkered down to wait out the first asset sale. Their thinking is that once the first power company – Mighty River Power – is part-privatised, that the public clamour would die away, and subsequent asset sales would attract less and less protest.

However, the people of this country had one last card to play; the Treaty of Waitangi. Long ignored by pakeha; the favourite rant of  demented callers on talkback radio; and the dog-whistle-of-choice by right wing politicians looking to garner a few thousand extra votes, there’s nothing quite like mentioning “Maori” and “Treaty” to whip up a bit of racist hysteria. It’s practically a basic Law of the Perverse-Universe; “Maori” + “Treaty” =  Kneejerk Racist Response.

When the Maori Council announced on 9 July that the part-sale of SOEs would result in Maori lodging an application to the Waitangi Tribunal, the response was as followed;

1. The Thinking Man & Woman

Absolute delight and a sigh of relief.  Critics of privatisation finally had a powerful means by which National’s agenda might be stalled – perhaps even halted dead in it’s tracks.

For the first time, the Treaty of Waitangi would be a document protecting the rights of pakeha, as well as tangata whenua. This was something never foreseen by anyone – but when you think about it, has a perfect logic and symmetry to it.

2. The Unthinking Man & Woman

“Maori” + “Treaty” = Kneejerk Racist Response.

See:  It’s official: racists aren’t very bright

This blogger has tried to get into the minds of reactionary racists, to try to understand how their mental processes work. Without much success, unfortunately.  The closest I can come to, to understand the mind of a redneck is that they are extremely fearful. But of what, precisely, who knows. Perhaps they whisper to  each other that Maori are coming to steal their houses through the next Treaty claim, and put us all on boats back to Mother England? (Or Eastern Europe, for this  blogger.)

Unfortunately, the Unthinking Man & Woman appears to be incapable of understanding that the Maori Council’s tactics are for all our benefits; to slow down or halt the part-sales process.  Their minds are caught in some weird “neuron-loop” where all they can think of is Maori-Treaty-Maori-Treaty-Maori-Treaty-Maori-Treaty-Maori-Treaty-Maori-Treaty-Maori-Treaty-Maori-Treaty… ad infinitum.

Even one person who took the effort to post comments on a previous blogpost  did not seem to understand. (See Mary’s comments here;   It’s official: racists aren’t very bright )

And see more comments here, on Fairfax’s website:   Harawira criticises Key over Maori water claim

No wonder Key is being stubborn on this issue; he is hoping to tap into a rich vein of racial prejudice, and to  boost his Party’s standing in the next political poll. Such a rise would be temporary, as happened when Don Brash gave his infamous “Orewa Speech” in January 2004.

3. John Key

John Key has been rattled by recent events. He may choose to dismiss public opinion polls; street marches; and other expressions of public discontent – but he cannot so easily dismiss a legal challenge.

Whilst Waitangi Tribunal decisions are not binding on governments – High Court rulings most certainly are. Even governments must obey laws and Court decisions,  irrespective of how ‘irksome’ such legal decisions may be.

To re-cap;

9 July:  Waitangi Tribunal hearing begins in Lower Hutt, after the Maori Council lodges an urgent  claim testing the rights of Maori over water.

John Key states, “The Government’s very firm view is that no-one owns water: we certainly don’t believe Maori own water; we don’t believe they own the airways, air or sea.

10 July:   On TVNZ’s “Breakfast“, John Key says, “We could choose to ignore what findings they might have – I’m not saying we would, but we could.”

10 July:   On TV3’s “Firstline“, Key says, “In the same way we don’t think anyone owns the sea and we don’t think anyone owns air.”

Unfortunately for Dear Leader, he may be engaging in a spot of wishful thinking, according to this comment made three days later;

13 July:  TV3: Crown lawyer, Paul Radich admits, “It’s accepted that Maori do have rights and interests in water.”

16 July:  “It was very matter of fact, I basically just said the Tribunal’s not binding on any government. ‘I actually said exactly the same words in front of the Treaty meeting house on Waitangi Day.”

16 July:  John Key states,  “You can’t rule that out.  It’s a matter that could be subject to court action. We certainly hope it’s not delayed. I think we should work on the principle that there is a high probability that we will be going to court. ”


Despite all of Key’s bluster and highly provocative remarks – many offensive – he has publicly admitted for the first time,  that where public opinion and protest failed – Maori may succeed in halting National’s privatisation programme.

For the first time since 26 November 2011, there is now a distinct possibility that the privatisation agenda may be thwarted. It is a slim hope, but barring a sudden snap election, that is all we have to go on.

17 July:  Key stated, “Why wasn’t it tested in 1999 when Contact was sold. In my view it’s opportunistic.”

This was backed up by his Deputy PM, Bill English,  “The Maori Council doesn’t have any interest in any river, lake, spring or creek.  The Iwi Leadership Group and individual iwis are working constructively with the Crown.  They don’t represent any particular interest.”

Key and English seem to be going all-out to play hard-ball. Something has them ‘spooked’, and this blogger understands why, with  comments made by Dear Leader yesterday: this is heading to Court.

And still, the inflammatory rhetoric kept coming;

17 July:  John Key says,  “The Crown’s long held view is that it’s irrelevant whether there is a change of ownership structure in Mighty River Power, it has no bearing to any rights or interests in water that Mighty River Power currently has long term water rights for… There’s a chance a meteorite will hit the Earth this afternoon, but I don’t think it’s likely.”

Key seems to think that if he repeats this mantra over and over again, that Maori will “fall in line” and make it happen his way.  Dear Leader is dreaming in LaLaLand.  Maori are tough operators and have learned to use the Pakeha system to their advantage, to address Treaty breaches.

Only, this time, it will be to the entire nation’s advantage, if the Maori Council succeed. We may yet stop National from thieving our state assets.

Last point: As TV3 News reported today (17 July); up to 84,000 meteorites hit Earth each year. So Dear Leader John Key may yet be in for a surprise.



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A lesson well learned in Capitalism 101

11 July 2012 3 comments



As Joshua Hitchcock posted Twitter a couple of nights ago,

“The Hypocrisy of the Political Right: We believe in property rights, except when they are claimed by indigenous people. We despise collectivism, except when it comes to beaches and waterways which everyone owns”

(Acknowledgement: Maui Street blog)

It seems to have escaped most folk that Maori are making a claim with the Waitangi Tribunal for water ownership rights as a final, last ditch effort to thwart National’s thieving policy of partial asset sales. To date, all other legal, non-violent means of resisting asset sales has fallen on deaf ears.

After two embarressing back downs (mining in conservation lands and Hekia Parata’s attempt to slash teacher numbers), National cannot afford another crushing retreat on any significant policy. It would be the electoral death-knell for the National Party, and would render John Key a political eunuch.

So the Nats have hunkered down. This is going to be messy ‘trench warfare’, and they were counting on the passage of time  to defeat the anti-privatisation movement.

Enter the Maori Council, stage left.

And perhaps the only means left to ordinary citizens; the Treaty of Waitangi. This time, despite the blind ignorance of mouth-frothing racists, employment of the  Treaty will ultimately be to the benefit of  Pakeha, as well as Maori.

John Key may well be legally correct when he says that no government is bound by the Waitangi Tribunal – though somewhat inappropriate and inflammatory.

But not so correct if the Maori Council takes the next step and sues the Government through the Courts. Now we’re playing hard ball, and no Government can ignore a Court decision. (Not unless the Westminster system is being replaced by a model more closely resembling North Korea.)

This is where  rabid racists in our community have been screaming  hysterically. (See: It’s official: racists aren’t very bright  ) Try to explain to these  neuron-challenged  rednecks that the Maori Council are trying to save our own assets from falling into the hands of investors from Berlin, Beijing, or Boston, and their mouth-frothing hysteria increases in intensity. These are not people that one can reason with.

Yet there is a delightful irony at work here…

  1. Maori are claiming ownership rights over water. The concept of private property and ownership rights is a concept that we Pakeha introduced into Aotearoa, upon colonisation. Up till then everything had been communally owned by the Iwi.
  2. John Key says  “no one can own water”. Yet, the government and local body councils think nothing of  charging for metered water in some regions and urban areas. Government sells radio frequencies to the highest bidders. Government sells mining and drilling rights to corporations. Government sells fishing quota – with the implication that Government owns ALL the fish in New Zealand’s territorial waters. And of course, we each (generally) own the land that our houses, businesses, factories, and farms rest on.  Maori have simply taken this concept to the next logical conclusion; Capitalism at work.
  3. Maori are employing the judicial system and testing the law through the Courts – another Pakeha construct which Maori have learned very well to use.

Those racists who think that “no one can own the water” might pause to consider that the concept of private ownership did not originate with Maori.

We Pakeha brought it to this country.

Private ownership and the judicial system were alien concepts,  introduced by colonisers, who made good use of property laws, Courts, and armed State enforcement  to suit themselves.

Maori have learned the lessons  of the coloniser. They have passed all tests when it comes to “Capitalism 101”.  The Pakeha system is one that suits Maori very well when it comes to addressing grievances of past land confiscations and other crimes committed against them.

However, on this occassion, Maori are using the Waitangi Tribunal and the Courts – not for their own purposes – but for the common good of the country. They may be the ones to save our multi-billion dollar assets from being flogged off by ex-money trader, John Key, and his crony-capitalist mates.

Racists may not appreciate this – but they should be bloody thankful for what Maori are doing.

Nothing else has worked thus far.





Waitangi Tribunal to hear asset sales arguments

Bad time for PM to shoot from the lip

Other blogposts

Tumeke:  John Key spits on the Treaty and Maori Party sell Maoridom down the river (literally)

Maui Street:  Maori Party takes it to National



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It’s official: racists aren’t very bright…

When the Maori Council announced that they would be challenging National’s asset sales programme, it appeared to be the country’s last-gasp attempt to stall privatisation.

National has ignored public opinion; derided public protests; and has stated that it will pay no heed to any referedum on the issue.  After backing down on mining in Conservation land and Parata’s plans to cut teacher numbers and increase class-room sizes, this is one battle that John Key dare not cave on.

A Three-Strikes-On-Policy-Backdowns would probably mean National losing it’s legitamacy as “government”.

Enter, the Maori Council.  Maori are challenging National in a way that Pakeha seem unable to; via the Treaty.

It may be our “last gasp” attempt.

In response, John Key has derided Maori opposition by stating that his Party may choose to ignore any Waitangi Tribunal decision upholding water rights for Maori,

We could choose to ignore what findings they might have – I’m not saying we would, but we could.

See:  Maori plan to fight Key’s ‘ignore it’

One would think that the public would jump for joy with a collective “Hurrah!!”  that we have a decent chance to stop National’s asset sale plans dead in their tracks.

But it seems that for some of our lesser-sentient fellow New Zealanders, any mention of “Maori” or “Treaty” elicits  racist, rabid, hysteria – almost akin to a Pavlovian response.

Even if the Maori Council’s actions ultimately benefits us collectively, it seems that those with a bloody-minded racist ‘bent‘ cannot see past their prejudiced noses, as some comments from a comments-page showed,



Steve   #2   08:53 am Jul 10 2012

Finally Key has figured out what maori are doing. IWI stands for I Want It.


Andrew   #5   09:02 am Jul 10 2012

This is complete and utter garbage. It is getting to the point where New Zealanders (both Maori and Pakeha) need to stand up and tell people like the money grabbing group “The Maori Council” that enough is enough. This group don’t represent Maori as a whole but are a small minority of rather wealthy Maori and Pakeha who see this as another chance for them to make easy money.


Andrew – John Key is planning to sell state assets to those with the wealth to buy shares. These are assets that we – you and I – already own.   So who is the “money grabbing group“?


Neil.l   #6   09:08 am Jul 10 2012

Basically all this is about it to determine what rights Maori have to water.However if for some reason the Tribunal says that Moari have full right to the water then they must accept full liability & the rights of anyone to claim should there be any flooding or “loss of water” .Maori need to take full responsibility of water not pluck out bits they like.


No, Neil. This is about National selling our state assets. Remember? I think it’s been in the news lately…?



Me   #7   09:19 am Jul 10 2012

From yesterdays meeting: comment made by Maori party >

“We own the water”

yah right!!! it is the most ridicolous statement made at the meeting yesterday. You go Key – we are right by you with the rejection.


And pray tell, “Me”, are you also “right behind John Key” in asset sales?


Paul Inane   #9   09:35 am Jul 10 2012

Will this stoush establish when ownership of the water begins? Will it be when the water hits the riverbed? Will it be as the water falls from the sky? Will it be when water forms in the clouds? Will that mean cloud ownership will also be in contention? Will it be when snow and ice thaws in the hills? Will Maori claim ownership of the tears that fall into the rivers from the people who have had enough of this?


Jonathan   #11   10:15 am Jul 10 2012

And here we go again.

This is one of the few occasions when, as a person of Maori decent, I can easily say I’m embarrassed.

While I agree that the Waitangi Tribunal has done a lot of good for Maori, this is where it starts going wrong for me. Firstly, certain factions beleive that radio spectrum was owned by Maori (forgive me if I have that slightly wrong), now a similar issue crops up for water.

Oh well, lets just sit back a watch our tax dollars being spent of legal fees fighting this through court.


Azza   #14   10:29 am Jul 10 2012

If the ownership of the water is transferred; do the expences incurred through the management of the waterways also transferred?


Azza – Focus on A.S.S.E.T.  S.A.L.E.S.

(And by the way, Maori had no “expences” prior to Pakeha arriving with sheep and cattle crapping and pissing in the rivers.)


bill   #16   10:48 am Jul 10 2012

Whilst i agree that selling assets isnt the best, this whole issue of maori owning water is ridiculous. cant they come up with a better argument.


No, Bill, they can’t.

Can you?

Let’s look at a few more of these rabid racists and their rants,


Bruce   #17   10:53 am Jul 10 2012

Where does the water come from that fills the rivers and lakes? It comes from the sky, so why don’t the maoris claim the sky that the rain falls from? This issue of who owns what has become little more than a farce spurred on by greedy people who think they are owed everything life has to offer without working for it!


Bruce – focus, mate, focus. Asset sales. AS-SET-SALES.  Stop sniffing those paint fumes and remember what National is planning to do…


Lienback   #18   10:54 am Jul 10 2012

“It’s a long time since we’ve had a prime minister who says ‘I don’t care what the Waitangi Tribunal says’.”” Actually it’s about time someone stepped up and said that some of the claims (especially around spurious claims of ownership of air, water, airwaves etc) were a nonsense. Well done Mr Key – you have just added another vote for National.


See:  Harawira criticises Key over Maori water claim

Now, either Lienbeck is a closet National voter anyway (quite likely), or his/her memory-loss is now approaching that of John Banks. Lienbeck seems to have totally forgotten what this issue is all about.

But then again, I suspect most of these racists are pro-asset sales anyway, and trhe Maori Council’s actions have merely given them a focus to (a) vent their racist-wrath at Maori, (b) trivialise the asset sales issue, and (c) snuggle up closer to John Key.

Like this idiot,


Me   #19   11:06 am Jul 10 2012

“We own the water” – says Maori party….. hahahahaha literally rolling on the floor lol – i just could not stop laughing. You show them right Key. We back you up on this.


KC   #20   11:26 am Jul 10 2012

I remember National saying no Maori seats on the Auckland City Council. As we now know that was a smoke screen.

Then along came the Auckland Maori Statutory Board appointed by the maori affairs minister from Wellington.

National will buckle to Maori, nothing surer, and the taxpayer will carry the can as usual.


“…and the taxpayer will carry the can as usual” – and KC makes no reference to how much taxpayers will lose from the asset sales. Have these people have totally lost the plot?


Patrick Woodbourne   #21   11:32 am Jul 10 2012

I think this is disgusting that the Maori want claims on water. The water belongs to everyone and this is just another money making deal. They always say that we are one and should treat everyone with respect. They have no idea what is one nation and this is just greed. John Key should not give into this and remember we are a New Zealand nation, not split.


Patrick – Asset sales? Huh? What?

Alright, go back to sleep.


Brian Marshall   #23   11:50 am Jul 10 2012

The treaty of Waitangi doesn’t say anything about water rights. This is just another sick grab at the public purse that would never stand up in the regular courts. Water is a common good and John Key should do one better and disband the Waitangi Commissioners.


So can I steal your land, Brian?

As for “water being a common good”, try telling that to the new owners of hydro-power stations. They’ll be showing you the door, with a size 9 bootprint on your backside, faster than you can say “But water is a common gooddddd…”

And this bit of sheer lunacy,


Gino   #24   12:02 pm Jul 10 2012

So when Maori turned up in NZ from whereever it was they invented Water and Air so therefore they own it…is that right?. I am sick of Maori putting their hand out every time they smell free money and yet when it comes to the reality of Maori in NZ, being at the bottom of all the wrong statistics they have nothing to say and no money to fix it yet again putting the blame on the Govt of the day and putting their hands out for more money to solve problems that apparently their “Mana” can’t fix.


Funny thing, Gino. You didn’t invent land, did you? So that means you don’t own the land your house sits on? Right?

There’s more – much more – but I think the reader get’s the ‘flavour‘ of what the Rabid Racist Right and the Intellectually Challenged  are up to.

The only thing missing is the sight of these rednecks frothing at the mouth as they post their virulent words on-line.

It’s always stomach turning whenever I happen to tune in to talkback radio. Racism, prejudice, and lack of rational thought abounds on the airwaves.

But to then read it on a (supposedly) reputable newspaper’s website, is disheartening. Prejudice and ignorance seems to abound, irrespective of the media.

And in the meantime, National continues it’s agenda to sell what we own; against public opinion; and to the detriment of our economy.

But evidently that’s unimportant to racists.



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