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Ok. We pick ourselves up, dust off, and  start working for a victory in 2017 (or earlier) tomorrow.



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  1. 21 September 2014 at 12:33 pm

    The basic problem was the Left threw away the election when it became obsessed with dirty politics (which was exposed by a person using legally dubious tactics he accused others of using) and the spectre of spies spying on everything we do rather than focussing on more bread and butter issues that were more important. The Moment of Truth only ended up making the Left look like a bunch of paranoid conspiracy theorists.

    When I went around the North Island on a road trip with the family in August it was obvious Labour didn’t seem to be putting much of an effort into the election. Billboards with “Vote Positive” were not going to motivate anyone to vote for them. The politically correct liberals have choked the life out of the Labour Party and the Left in general by turning the Labour Party into a bunch of new age wowsers and killjoys.

    Labour needs to go back to its working class roots and reconnect with New Zealanders on the office and factory floor. It needs to be out there rubbing shoulders with farm labourers, forestry workers and wharfies. It needs to be listening to the concerns of ordinary working (and poor) New Zealanders, not talking down to us as if we’re ignorant sheeple who are too stupid to think for ourselves.

    How can the Left expect to win elections if we dismiss the public as stupid and ignorant unless they parrot what the Left say? You know that I’ve got nothing but loathing for the likes of National, ACT etc but unless the Left stops talking down to people and actually start addressing their concerns we have no chance of winning in 2017 and we will continue to lose to National as what should be our voting base either vote for the Right or, increasingly, don’t bother to vote at all.

    I advance voted for the Labour Party. Last year I actually joined the Labour Party. I wonder if I did the right thing.

    • 21 September 2014 at 5:37 pm

      Actually, I think you did do the right thing in joining Labour, Miles. As a member, you can (and should) make your thoughts known as a Branch meeting and start the ball rolling with suggestions.

      It’s only by grass roots sending a clear message to the leadership that things will change.

  2. Akldnut
    22 September 2014 at 12:17 am

    You definitely didn’t do the wrong thing, we need to have you ideas voices and bantered around.

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