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Did we just hear Steven Joyce sh*t all over his colleagues?!?!

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Government sticking with Novopay - for now

Acknowledgment: Radio NZ – Government sticking with Novopay – for now

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Steven Joyce,

Steven Joyce revealed that Education Minister Hekia Parata, Finance Minister Bill English and former education minister Craig Foss approved the use of Novopay despite being told that it had bugs.”

See: IBID

In colloquial terms, that is what is known as ‘dropping someone in it’ – “it” being brown, smelly, and heading for waste-treament ponds.

Is there a civil war going on within National, comprising two factions with one led by technocrat Steven Joyce and the other by neo-liberal Bill English?

Or is there something even more disquieting going on within National’s ranks.

Joyce added,

There was definitely knowledge there were bugs at the outset of going live. But the advice of all involved was that the thing should proceed. I doubt they’d give the same advice today.

Noticeably, when queried by media, all three Ministers had similar responses – obviously coached by the same tax-payer funded Party spin-doctors and media-minders,

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Mr Fix-It has Novopay plan

See: Mr Fix-It has Novopay plan

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Hekia Parata

I think hindsight’s a wonderful thing....

Bill English

In hindsight....

And the tongue-tied Craig Foss,

Well in hindsight… is a benefit of hindsight...

See: IBID

You can always tell when a politician has been coached; they use the same words and phrases over and over again. Spin doctors/media-minders develop a mantra, and their clients are expected to learn and parrot it, by rote. It takes a skilful journalist/interviewer to peel away the carefully-crafted coaching and get to the truth.

This indicates that Parata, English, and Foss had been pre-warned of Joyce’s press conference and admission of the three Minister’s actions.

So is this some sort of carefully managed internecine warfare?

Or a very subtle, clever strategy to neutralise possible Opposition disclosures in Parliament?

Joyce’s statements that there will be on-going problems with Novopay could be seen as an attempt to minimise future media reports on Novopay errors.After all, if National admits that there will be ongoing problems – does that make it news when it happens?

Whichever is the case, this is Steven Joyce at his most cunning, and the Opposition will need to be on their toes. As will the media, if they are not to be out-manouvered by National’s “Mr Fix It”.

“Mr Fix It” does not apply to sorting out computerised pay systems. “Mr Fix It” fixes political messes.

This certainly qualifies as the Mother of all Messes.

Addendum

As is common with National, Joyce attempted to shift blame onto advisors/bureacrats/Uncle Tom Cobbly, when he stated,

There was definitely knowledge there were bugs at the outset of going live. But the advice of all involved was that the thing should proceed…

My bet is that we will never, ever see this “advice”.

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= fs =

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  1. Matthew
    31 January 2013 at 11:03 pm | #1

    In hIndsight the people of New Zealand made mistakes in 2008 and 2011.

    • 1 February 2013 at 12:46 am | #2

      Some bloody BIG mistakes, Matthew.

      Oh, and you can add 1975 to that list of dates…

  2. DR
    1 February 2013 at 7:36 am | #3

    I read about a ‘review’ last year.
    I cant find the reference, but about 30% of the ‘trial’ said it should not go live.

  3. mcclairy
    1 February 2013 at 7:58 am | #4

    Yes, I heard Joyce on TV and said, “I don’t believe it!”. Did a playback and sure enough he threw them in right in it. LOL and a few colour coded remarks flew around.
    Big disappointment….hadn’t realised this was Labours baby. What were they thinking ? The previous system was excellent. Cost?

    • kris
      1 February 2013 at 8:39 am | #5

      it may have been labores Baby as u put it- but the torys were the ones who signed off on it and therefore must take full responsibility for the fuk up

      this whole exercise was a an attempt to break the PPTA,nothing more nothing less…

    • Vagabundo
      1 February 2013 at 8:50 am | #6

      Technically, it was Labour’s baby in the sense that the then-Minister of Education (I think Mallard had moved on from that portfolio at that point and I can’t remember who it was) signed the contract, but this was around June or July in 2008. The development of the system and the roll-out of it is entirely on English, Tolley, Parata and Foss.

  4. r0b
    1 February 2013 at 11:08 am | #7

    Nice – may I repost this on The Standard?
    -r0b

  5. Vagabundo
    1 February 2013 at 11:33 am | #8

    There has been some scuttlebutt about acrimony between factions led by Joyce, Collins and English within the National Party. I guess we’re seeing a glimpse of that here.

  6. 1 February 2013 at 2:32 pm | #9

    r0b :

    Nice – may I repost this on The Standard?
    -r0b

    It’d be my honour, Rob. Go for it! :-)

  7. 1 February 2013 at 2:34 pm | #11

    Vagabundo :

    There has been some scuttlebutt about acrimony between factions led by Joyce, Collins and English within the National Party. I guess we’re seeing a glimpse of that here.

    Yep, I’ve heard it as well, Vagabundo. It’s the first thing that popped into my mind when I heard Joyce’s comments. Oh to be a fly on the ceiling in some of those Ministers’ offices…!

  8. Jenny
    1 February 2013 at 11:59 pm | #12

    I thought he dropped them in it totally, but one must remember Joyce is Key’s annointed one to succeed him. Standing in his way is Judith Collins so it is a fight of the ruthless.

  9. mick
    2 February 2013 at 3:09 pm | #13

    How come we seem to have some really brilliant business leaders but such shit politicians ?

  1. 1 February 2013 at 3:46 pm | #1

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