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Dear Leader, GCSB, and Kiwis in Wonderland (Part Rua)



From previous related blogpost,


NZ First Leader, Winston Peters, managed to extract this gem from Dear Leader during Question Time in Parliament,

Government Communications Security Bureau—Briefings Since November 2008

3. Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) to the Prime Minister: How many times has he been formally briefed by the Government Communications Security Bureau, by year, since November 2008?

Rt Hon JOHN KEY (Prime Minister) : My diary indicates that I have been formally briefed by the Government Communications Security Bureau the following number of times, by year, since 2008: twice in 2008, 15 times in 2009, 11 times in 2010, 10 times in 2011, and 15 times in 2012.

Source: Parliamentary Hansards, 25 September 2012

Key’s response is extraordinary for two reasons,

  1. He gave a serious answer and not the flippant, juvenile wise-cracks he normally indulges in (which, we, the taxpayer, have to pay for as he wastes Parliamentary time)
  2. The answer he gave revealed that Key had met with the Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) fifteen times this year alone – and the subject of GCSB surveillance on Kim Dotcom – possibly one of the most colourful, controversial, and contentious people in the country – was never raised once?!?!

John Key. Met. With. The. GCSB. Fifteen. times.

See: Dear Leader, GCSB, and Kiwis in Wonderland (1 October)


Key was definitely in the country – in part –  whilst the GCSB was spying on Dotcom. (See: Prime Minister John Key’s Address in Reply Debate – 21st December, 2011)

At some point between 21 December and 27 January, Key holidayed in Hawaii. (See:  John Key Video Journal No.50)

On 27 January 2012, Key attended the annual Australia-New Zealand Leaders’ Meeting and  joint meeting of senior Cabinet Ministers. (See: PM to visit Australia with Ministers)

Second question: Was surveillance of Dotcom discussed at any meeting around that time period by the Officials Committee for Domestic and External Security Coordination (ODESC)? If not, why not? Considering that ODESC is responsible for “oversight and policy guidance of the Bureau, if the Dotcom cases and cross-organisational liaison did not merit discussion – what then,  is ODESC overseeing?

See: Spy VS Politician


And now today;  3 October,


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As this blogger wrote two days ago (1 Oct),

The answer he gave revealed that Key had met with the Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) fifteen times this year alone – and the subject of GCSB surveillance on Kim Dotcom – possibly one of the most colourful, controversial, and contentious people in the country – was never raised once?!?!”

It now appears that my disbelief was well-warranted.

The issue of Kim Dotcom did arise at a GCSB meeting on 29 February, this year.

That 29 Feb meeting with GCSB took place only forty days after the raid on Kim Dotcom’s mansion in Coastville (Jan 20).

And Key still maintains he can’t recall being briefed?

It appears that this is not the first time Key’s memory of  events has ‘failed’ him,


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The Prime Minister has not been upfront with the people of New Zealand. This blogger believes there is more to come out, and furthermore that we will see some damning revelations disclosed to the public.

In fact, if it is proven that John Key knew more about the GCSB-Dotcom Affair than has been revealed thus far, and if links to overseas interests are shown to be correct – then this government will fall.

National has been on borrowed time since the John Banks-Teapot Tape Affair, and this issue will be the final straw.

Addendum 1

This blogger endorses full citizenship to Kim Dotcom; his family; and his mates. Anyone that can show up a government to be as corrupt/inept as National deserves full citizenship.

Addendum 2

It appears that the public already had an inkling in November last year as to “who was more likely to bend the truth”.  See: John Key: Safe hands, forked tongue?




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  1. 4 October 2012 at 12:45 am

    Brilliant. As usual🙂 Yep, second the citizen endorsement, for that fact alone.And yeah, can’t get that a public who considered him the most likely to lie to them … elected him again shortly thereafter. That one still causes wonder in me I must say…

    • 4 October 2012 at 12:47 am

      Thank you, Alan.

      Yes, it’s hard to figure out voters sometimes… Much like those folk who opposed asset sales and still voted for the Nats? Gawd blimey, how did we ever make it out of the caves… (Or out of the trees?)

  2. 4 October 2012 at 12:50 am

    Blinding Frank .. I rather think the balls on Planet Key may have finally hit the rough. Or better still water..Hopefully Hot water beach kind .
    .Will share on fussbook wall as had forgotten Media Works & the BMWS..The Pinnochio picture seems more apt by the day..More strings ( and lies).
    Key’s sociopathic propensity for lying appears to be increasing exponentially now..
    This ‘No recall amnesia from Banks, English Neazor & now Key again seems to be going from endemic to potentially pandemic & even Nats I have spoken too are shaking their heads now..
    The rest of the liquefaction has to come seeping out now. .. Lets hope this is the one to bury them?

  3. Priss
    4 October 2012 at 9:28 am

    Key’s reputation is unravelling before our eyes. It’ll be interesting to see what the polls show in upcoming weeks ands months. This will be the end of National in government probably for the rest of the decade.

  4. SpaceMonkey
    4 October 2012 at 9:57 am

    It looks like it’s Dear Leader that suffers from the brain fades! I can’t recall a more incompetent Prime Minister. Where is our Governor General? Also, great film poster!

    • 4 October 2012 at 12:21 pm

      Cheers for that, SM. I can’t claim credit for the “movie poster”…

      … now whwere did I get it from? Gosh, I must be having a John Key/John Banks Moments – I can’t remember!

      As for the most incompetant Prime Minister – indeed. I thought Jenny Shipley was bad with the scandals that rocked her coalition guvmint (National and Mauri Pacific) – but Key has definitely taken top place.

      As Priss mentioned above, it’ll be interesting to see what the polls show after this…

  5. Ralph
    4 October 2012 at 10:16 am

    How much more inanity can Kiwis take from this prat? The true believers I talk to are still all dewy eyed over their boy, its almost like a religious ritual with them. Soon he’ll be handing out little paper cups of Kool Aid…I hope🙂

  6. murray
    4 October 2012 at 1:02 pm

    Nice one Frank. The problem it seems with being a serial liar is that it gets to be dammed hard to keep track of them all. Is there not an app for that?

    • 4 October 2012 at 1:21 pm

      @ Murray –😀 – there might be a market for that, I’d say. I wonder if I can get funding from the Ministry of Economic Development (or whatever it’s called threse days)?

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