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Uncle Sam, Over Here?

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The interview with Panetta,

CORIN DANN: Putting the ship issue aside, is there perhaps the potential for New Zealand one day to host US marines in that same way, perhaps, that Australia and the Philippines might be in the future?

LEON PANETTA: Well, you know, I think one of the things that was made clear to me by the Defence Minister is the interest in developing amphibious capability here with the New Zealand forces. And we certainly can help provide assistance in that. The marines are among the best in terms of that capability. And I would hope that, you know, we could develop an approach where we could continue to do exercises, continue to provide training and assistance, continue to provide our expertise and try to build up New Zealand’s capabilities so that you will be in a better position to be able to provide not only for your own security but help us in providing for the security of the Asia-Pacific region.

See: TVNZ’s Q+A Interview

Stationing US troops here on New Zealand soil, on a permanent basis?!

Ahhh, that would be a definite NO.

Not unless National was hell-bent on buying into a fight with every leftist, peacenik,  anti-war Christian, and  middle class liberal  in this country?

The only reason National might conceivably go along with such a nutty proposal is that middle class New Zealanders are finally  tiring of beneficiary-bashing, and Key’s spin-meisters needed a new diversionary strategy.

Our Aussie cuzzies might be happy at the prospect of becoming the 51st state of the U S of A – but I suspect us kiwis draw the line at having crappy tv programmes broadcast into our homes.

No thank you, Dear Leader, Uncle Sam, or Uncle Tom Cobbly.

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  1. CR
    23 September 2012 at 11:16 pm | #1

    Absolutely no US Marines in NZ!

  2. HW
    24 September 2012 at 12:44 am | #2

    It wont happen. Just media driven sensationalism again. That and another dopey US official……

  3. Craig Coffee
    24 September 2012 at 1:47 am | #3

    The last thing we need is the stationing of a breed of war mongers like the US marines,…

  4. 24 September 2012 at 2:01 am | #4

    Don’t be fooled Hone, this was keys masterful plans when he come in to politics, he’s one of those hooked on america im noting his being half jewish along with those corporations r all jews or zionist, however its why hes trying to make changes in nz, charter school, f/b snoops to nab the activist then have them up on trumped up terrorist charges if you speak out about this government franks blogg would be looked at n considered as propoganda trying to coerce the masses just saying, now uncle sams visit (whatzup doc) our soldiers r being used to help america with their war, which is not ours this is a indication for more like ”WE DON’T WANT A USA ARMY BASE ANYWHERE ON OUR SHORES” bugger off USA your not welcomed here ever!! …:( :( thanks again frank :)

  5. mcclairy
    24 September 2012 at 6:48 am | #5

    “continue to provide our expertise” – Now what does that mean? Drones ? Snotty nosed CIA personel hunting down “commies” hiding behind every bush? Bringing “freedom and democracy” to say, Fiji, or wherever they say some remote atoll is not doing it the USofA way?
    This largesse is about US interests, as it said in the ANZUS treaty, “We will only come to the military aid of Australia and New Zealand if it is America’s interest.”
    This malarky is all about China and their growing influence around the world with trade and aid. Hegemony produces strange bedfellows and I don’t think I fancy bedding down with US nor any one else for that matter. Time to join the non aligned countries and determine our own sovereignty doing what is best for Kiwis not what is best for Uncle Sam.

  6. 24 September 2012 at 9:49 am | #6

    “This malarky is all about China and their growing influence around the world with trade and aid.”

    Indeed, McClairy. I sure as hell don’t think the US want a base here in NZ because the Taliban/Al Queda/Klingons are about to launch a full-scale invasion on our country…

  7. 24 September 2012 at 9:51 am | #7

    Wait for the US to start offering sweet deals on planes & boats, together with those joint training exercises. Maybe a harbour to dock boats and subs that will be the “exception” to the no-nukes policy? Marlborough Sounds might suit them – and what could they give us to sweeten the deal? Maybe the Yanks will pay for some infrastructure – Roads of national significance, say?

    We should be beaten down enough soon to welcome largesse from Uncle Sam.

    • 24 September 2012 at 11:27 am | #8

      Indeed, Scintilla. They’ll make an offer the Nats will lap up – most likely wrapped in the “promise” of new jobs. Key will be be desperate to grab that ‘straw” with both hands, considering that is their biggest failure.

  8. 24 September 2012 at 9:27 pm | #9

    Just to remind us how things are done in wartime:

    “When Nash late in February 1943 was reported to have said in Washington that New Zealand was willing to grant the United States permanent use of air and naval bases in New Zealand as part of a mutual defence system in the Pacific, there was some indignation: New Zealand should have heard about this decision, which affected every living and future New Zealander, before it was announced by Nash from the States, said the Auckland Star.”

    http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-WH2-1Hom-c14.html (Part of The Home Front, vol 1 Official History of NZ in the Second World War.) This is fascinating stuff, very readable too!

    • 24 September 2012 at 10:09 pm | #10

      I’ve had a read of it (up to page 627)… And you’re right, it’s fascinating stuff, Scintilla. *thumbs up*

  9. 25 September 2012 at 11:56 am | #11

    Bad linking on my part : the quote is on p. 634 of the WW2 history stuff!

  10. Deborah Kean
    25 September 2012 at 4:52 pm | #12

    Hi, peacenik anti-war Christian here, and I join everyone in saying ‘absolutely no!’ We don’t want US troops here – aside from anything else, speaking practically, it would make us a target. (The same argument was rightly made during the anti-nuclear ships protests in the 1980s)
    Deb

  11. silver account
    27 September 2012 at 2:31 pm | #14

    LEON PANETTA: Well, you know, I think one of the things that was made clear to me by the Defence Minister is the interest in developing amphibious capability here with the New Zealand forces. And we certainly can help provide assistance in that. The marines are among the best in terms of that capability. And I would hope that, you know, we could develop an approach where we could continue to do exercises, continue to provide training and assistance, continue to provide our expertise and try to build up New Zealand’s capabilities so that you will be in a better position to be able to provide not only for your own security but help us in providing for the security of the Asia-Pacific region.

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